enlisted as John Hartley. Virtually impossible to follow. In addition his wifes name has morphed from HArtshotn to Hartley, which is presumably he got his alias
1884 Aug 26. The RIC date has to be wrong. The marriage date with RIC is correct, so he has to be John Shimmin, born Barrow in 1884. The RIC details were born 1879 May 28 Lancs
His birth is in GRO, but no other records of him until he married in 1905
1905 Jun 10 married Barrow in Furness to Clara HARTSHORN
1907 Oct 16 He is a riviter and joins United Society Of Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders. He is probably a boarder and a riviter under Shannon in 1910 in BArrow
1911 census. His wife & child are in Barrow in Furness. She is living with her widowed father John HARTLEY.

1921 Jul 6 enlisted as John Hartley with RIC no 82389 . Blast Furnace Filler & ex-soldier
changed name to John Henry Shimmin
1921 Dec 7 Posted to Beggars Bush
1939 Register. He is a Stockman living in Barrow in Furness with wife Clara
1959 Nov 7 Died Barrow in Furness as John Shimmin